Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Article on Female Circumcision

copyright 1996 The Seattle Times Company
Local News : Sept. 13, 1996
Harborview debates issue of circumcision of Muslim girls
by Carol M. Ostrom
Seattle Times staff reporter
It started simply enough: a pregnant Somali patient and a doctor
in an examining room at Harborview Medical Center. The doctor asked
what she thought was a routine question: "If it's a boy, do you
want him circumcised?"
"Yes," the Somali woman replied. "But what if it's a girl?"
The refugee woman's question and its implications sent doctors and
administrators at Harborview reeling. Circumcision for girls? Surely
no doctor would ever consider performing removing healthy tissue,
a procedure dubbed by some accounts from Africa and other Third
World countries as "female genital mutilation."
And yet, these were women of another culture, a culture the doctors
believed they should respect. Soon, some began to listen. And what
they heard convinced them that as strongly as a Jewish mother
believes her son must be circumcised to be a member of the faith,
so do some Somali Muslim refugees in Seattle believe that their
daughters' genitals must be cut to comply with their religion and
demands of their culture.
The question facing Harborview: Was there any alternative to cutting
away healthy genital tissue that would satisfy what some Somalis
believe is a religious and cultural requirement?
"It's very important for the Somalian people, because it's a very
old culture," says Fardosa Abdullahi, speaking through a translator.
Her head and upper body draped in a black hijab, a traditional
Muslim covering, Abdullahi insists that each of her three young
daughters must be cut. "It's important for her health; it's important
for religion. We have to keep the religion."
How important is it? Enough to go back to Africa or to another
country to get it done, enough to offer bundles of money to native
"midwives" to do it, the Somali women say. "It's important enough
to take your three kids and get a ticket, $1,500 for each person,"
says Kadija Ahmed, a Somali woman with three daughters.
A Harborview committee chaired by Dr. Abraham Bergman, chief of
pediatrics, found that there was something called a "sunna"
circumcision, which, as envisioned, would entail no more than a
small cut in the prepuce, the hood above a girl's clitoris. It
would remove no tissue and leave only a small scar. The Somali
women say it would fulfill their religious and cultural needs.
Dr. James LoGerfo, Harborview's medical director, has sent the
committee's recommendation to the state's attorney general for
legal review. No doctors at Harborview have done the procedure,
nor is there any plan to do anything before a communitywide discussion
of the issue is held, LoGerfo says.
None of that has placated those who say that even talking about
cutting female genitals legitimizes a barbaric practice, one that
disempowers women and serves to keep them out of the American
mainstream.
Mimi Ramsey, a 43-year-old Ethiopian who heads Forward International,
a California-based group working to stop genital cutting, said she
was mutilated when she was six years old and would do anything to
stop doctors from cutting girls' genitals.
"This is the most horrible, horrible thing that is happening to
children. This is the sort of pain they want to create for the
helpless little girls that are Americans. They are born in this
country. They have a right to protect their bodies."
"This is barbaric," agrees Diane Dupuy, a local member of the group.
"I can't imagine doing this to girls; this is taking away their
rights."
On the contrary, says LoGerfo, the compromise may be the only
available ethical, legal and humane alternative "short of throwing
the kids and the mother in jail for 20 years to make sure nothing
happens to them."
Bergman says outsiders should be careful when making judgments
about the cultures of others. "It behooves us to show some respect,"
he says, adding that decisions should not be made without thorough
information.
As for the mothers who asked the Harborview doctors if their
daughters could be circumcised, they, too, find themselves trying
to understand a strange culture.
Most of them were cut in Somalia, the majority in ways that removed
much tissue and sewed together what was left. In procedures called
"infibulations" or "Pharaonic" circumcisions, most lost their
clitorises and surrounding flesh, becoming scarred in ways that
sometimes cause pain and difficulty in childbirth and can make
intercourse painful. But they say that such cutting was a mark of
a respectable family that cared about its daughter, a guarantee of
her virginity, a sign that the girl was a good Muslim.
Many Somali women are shocked to find that, in this country, some
people think cutting young girls' genitals amounts to child abuse.
Without circumcision, a girl would feel embarrassed, says one
28-year-old Somali woman, a mother of three. If other girls knew,
they would laugh at her, and she would feel shamed. If her daughters
are not circumcised, she says, no man will want to marry them.
"He will think he is getting a girl already used," she says.
Circumcision, even a tiny cut, she says, will somehow help her
daughters avoid what she sees as the American disease: "Girls 13,
14, 15 get pregnant, go wild, get welfare." It won't prevent a girl
from having sex, she concedes, but it would be a sign that "she's
trying to control herself."
Like other Muslin women, she says her religion requires girls be
circumcised. She and others who have studied the issue say female
circumcision is not spelled out in the Koran, but is mentioned in
the Hadith, the collection of oral religious teachings.
Ahmed Scego, a 29-year-old Somali man who has been in the U.S.
since 1988, worries that if mothers take their daughters back to
Africa, there is more chance that a grandmother who believes in
the old way, the Pharaonic circumcision, will call the shots. "I
know a lot of people who are saving their money to take their
daughters somewhere," he says.
These women already have moved from being radically cut themselves
to wanting only a virtually symbolic cut for their daughters, he
says. Somalis are a proud culture, he says, and they don't change
easily.
According to studies, Somalia has one of the highest rates of female
circumcision, which is practiced in more than 30 countries in the
world, predominantly in Africa. In some countries, including Somalia,
over 80 percent of the women are cut.
A teenager from Togo was recently given asylum amid a rash of
stories depicting screaming girls being held down by relatives as
their flesh was scraped away.
The World Health Organization says that the more severe forms have
caused infections, tetanus, bleeding, shock, hemorrhage and even
death. A woman who survives all that may have difficulties in
childbirth, scarring and pain.
Estimates place the Somali population in the Seattle area at about
3,000. Other states with relatively large populations of immigrants
from African countries that practice female circumcision - Rhode
Island, Tennessee, Minnesota and North Dakota - have outlawed the
practice. A similar bill in California has passed the legislature
and is awaiting the governor's signature. In Congress, a bill
introduced by Rep. Pat Schroeder of Colorado would outlaw the
practice.
Some doctors at Harborview don't like the idea of a national law.
In fact, says Dr. Leslie Miller, an obstetrician-gynecologist, a
sunna circumcision of girls would be a good deal less drastic than
what is done to boys during circumcision, a common and accepted
procedure.
Miller says she can understand why the refugees are confused. "We
will cut the whole foreskin off a penis, but we won't even consider
a cut, a sunna, cutting the prepuce, a little bloodletting (on a
girl)," she says.
Medical doctors in this country also do cosmetic surgery on genitals,
Miller notes.
"We're not discussing circumcision with (the Somalis) because we
want to mutilate their daughters' genitals; it's because it's a
reasonable request," says Miller.
Not all Somali women want to have their daughters circumcised,
Miller says. But perhaps doctors should consider doing sunna
circumcisions if such a procedure would help make the transition
from the generation with radical circumcisions to one where no
cutting at all would need to be done, she suggests.
Not all Muslim countries practice female circumcision, and the
procedure appears to be dictated by culture and tradition as much
as by religion. Tradition also dictates the age at which a girl is
cut: In Somalia, a girl is typically 6 to 8 years old. In this
country, such a young girl would not be considered able to give
consent, noted LoGerfo. If any such procedure were ever done,
LoGerfo says, age 12 would be the minimum.
At Children's Medical Center, medical director Dr. John Neff says
only procedures that are deemed medically necessary are performed.
But he concedes there is debate as to the medical necessity of
circumcisions for boys. "Male circumcision is a controversial
issue," he says. "Female circumcision, as far as we're concerned,
is not a controversial issue. It just should not be done."
Kadija Ahmed says she knows Americans find it difficult to understand
her religion and culture, the underpinnings of a country where she
was married at 13 to a much older man who paid her parents 100
camels for his beautiful young bride.
"Everything we do comes from religion - how we eat, how we dress,
how we talk to people," she says.
Fardosa Abdullahi says Allah spells out what is right, and she and
other Muslims must follow.
"Anyone who thinks this is wrong or weird is not respecting my
culture or my religion or who I am," she says, "and they should be
educated."
Citation:
Carol M. Ostrom. Seattle Times, Seattle, Washington, 13 September 1996.
(File revised 6 September 2004)
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12 comments:

  1. What do you all think of this?
    We'd love to hear your opinions? Do you think this is an acceptable practice?

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  2. Oh my. What an intense subject, I felt like I couldn't read fast enough... I feel like given the health risks involved and inexperience of doctors I am opposed to this practice currently. However, I think it is important for Western medicine to recognize other paradigms and respect them. I can see this happening if doctors were properly trained and as far as girls being able to give consent, I always wish for that. Men don't have this option and while I recognize that the procedure becomes more dangerous and painful the older a man gets, I wish they were able to give consent too... It's hard to say though because I'm not a parent.

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  3. I have never heard of female circumcision, so I was amazed while I read that article. I think that is sad that they do that to young girls. I would think that this would be a very painful procedure, and one that is mandatory discusses me. Do all males have to go through this too, and if they do at what age?

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  4. I have read stories about women who have run away from their countries. Female circumcision always stuck in my mind as one of those reasons why. It was described as painful and horrible but I don't feel that it's my place to say whether or not I agree with it. I respect the fact that the practice is part of some religions. I think that when it's done procedures need to be modified so that the child can recover in a healthy way. I think it's irresponsible for doctors in this country to turn this religious request away knowing that the procedure will be done somewhere less sanitary and in more painful ways.
    I also feel that if someone is going to use "informed consent" as the reason why it shouldn't be done then babies shouldn't have their ears pierced and, as the article says, men should not be circumcised. Parent's are in charge of "informed consent" in this country until the child turns 18. Using this as a basis to turn someone away doesn't seem legitimate. Maybe I'm just a bleeding heart liberal when it comes to issues of "choice" but I don't think that it's fair to dictate pieces of someone else's religion. If the practices seems inhumane (because medicine isn't as advanced in these areas) then I think it would be nice if doctors here put aside how freaked out "cutting extra flesh away" makes them and respect the wishes of the families of these girls.

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  5. This was a very intense story to read. I found myself getting very upset at times. I have read other stories about this and have been horrified. I'm trying really hard to see it from the religious side of things, but I have to admit that it is very hard for me. I am not a religious person and to have somthing dictated by religion to do is very hard for me to swallow. I'm not sure of the science behind it being "for their health" by what means? I'm not so sure about for Jewish males either...I grew up in a half Jewish household, where they didn't circumcise the boys because there was not any clear science behind the health factor at this time in history. During this story I felt very angry that there were women out their being forced to doing something, kicking and screaming. I could not imagine doing that to my girls.

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  6. I have read stories about this as well. One that sticks in my mind is of a grandmother, daughter, and granddaughter whom lived in the United States. They lived in a Somali community where there was a Somali midwife who would perform this procedure. The grandmother wanted her daughter to get the granddaughter circumcised as they both were and the mother did not want to. One day, the mother went out to the grocery store and the grandmother took her granddaughter to get midwife and the procedure was performed, the child acquired an infection and died soon after... if doctors in this country are properly trained for this procedure then I think it should be offered. I do think that proper training and clean environments are important, and this is important to avoid situations like the one above... I'm not sure what this means for informed consent.. but I feel like that was a factor in this story as well.

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  7. Not all men are circumcised, although many are as babies, (which of course means there is no informed consent on their part).
    Jarica's story is heartbreaking.
    Laine, I'm not sure what they mean by for their health either since most women in the US are fine without it unless they believe something bad, (both health and religion wise) will happen if they don't.
    All your comments are so interesting and it's important that people know this is going on because it is an issue that will continue to grow until it is settled in one way or another.

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  8. This is such a controversial and interesting topic, thank you guys for addressing it. I am particularly interested in public health and this definitely constitutes as a public health issue. I have read many articles written by journalists in magazines such as "glamour and marie claire" about this international women's health issue. Perhaps something to consider in this argument is that both male and female* circumcision are considered cosmetic procedures. The main difference between the two I think is that male circumcision has low health risks associated with the procedure and has been proven to reduce transmission of sexually transmitted diseases. Men who are not circumcised are also at risk for developing infections due to improper cleansing techniques. Female circumcision on the other hand has very high risks for complications as a direct result of the procedure (as mentioned in the blog). There are no known medical/health benefits; the benefits are religiously and culturally related.

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  9. I think this is more of a clashing of cultures if anything. There is no right or wrong answer. My perspective is that they should be able to have this done to their daughters. It is apart of their culture. Who are we to say that it is wrong. As stated in the article it is so important to them that they will spend the money to have it done anyway with results that would be more damaging to the girl than if she had it done in a clean environment. There isn't a question about male circumcision and I don't think that there should be for a female either. I think it is the choice of the parent.

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  10. Morgan thank you for sharing what you have learned on this subject.
    As a group, we are thankful that you are responding to our blog.
    As we are nearing the half way mark, we are also wondering if there is anything that we have not yet addressed about this subject that would be of particular interest to you. If so, please let us know and we will work to provide that information within the second half of the class. Your input is greatly appreciated.

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  11. I work as a family crisis domestic violence advocate. I was talking with other staff just last week. The person who does our teen school group support groups was talking all about female circumcision. The trauma and lifetime effects that the females live with is awful and devastating. Also, the number of somali females that wanted to participate in support group was so high that we have a group predominantly made up of somali female teens and the dominant topic that they want to talk about is female circumcision. we work very closely with the Uited Somali Women of Maine agency in order to educate a ourselves about this issue and others that Somali females face.

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  12. I know from experience, having three boys, that circumcision is now optional and insurance will not cover the costs. However the health benefits of have boys circumsized by far out weights the couple of days of being uncomfortable. It reduces the risk of infection, UTI in boys, and yeast infections. However, I think what many people see even the alternative is that there are to benefits to this. Its has to be looked at strictly as a religious right. I do not believe in female mutilation however, it seem the Somalian people are trying to compromise and conform to what would be acceptable in the United States. They would receive a topical anesthetic just like the boys and from what the new procedure describes won't cause any damage at all.I don't see a problem with this procedure when you look at the alternative.

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